Okozukai
The okozukai is a word that could be translated as pay.
Japan, as in Spain, it is quite normal for children okozukai receive from their parents to buy some things. So here we may seem quite normal, but certainly not what they seem normal to many n-Japanese in Japan is that it is very normal that the husband okozukai received from his wife. And where the woman takes the money usually only works if the husband?. Here's the interesting thing when you start of Japanese culture. In Japan, husbands give salary to all women, and brother say they give the salary I would say that there are many times that the husbands have no access to the bank's book, since all the money of the house is organized by women, I mean that the man who makes an entrance to a bank account to which only the wife has access. The woman gives her husband paid a monthly, weekly or daily with her husband to take this money for necessary things, but I really can not have money for any whim.
These quantities of money around 1000 or 2000 yen a day, so as you see, that there is no money for many whims.
This week, the news came out in the same subject, where they were interviewed on the street by people asking this question, most salary-men. By doing the interviews, it appeared that despite the suits and that all men will have a good salary, all seemed to be a little hard to see the money they received from their wives, and a case that was very common to lunchtime, almost did not eat anything, to spend as little as possible by buying a onigiri, or anything else in the conbini and having some money at night to go drinking with friends.
Poor leagues also say (although I suppose that is not a common case), that the husbands do not really know the money actually spent women, things for the house, bills etc, there are some who have a secret account, where Part of the money is diverted to this account and if one day they taught the main bank book with her husband, they really do not know that there is more money in another account.
With this money, can spend a lot of things hidden, such as women use it for their own events without sticking to it and knows her husband is reflected in monthly charges or otherwise as I know, the woman saw that the car family was already old and told her husband that had to be diverted money to another account and that there was enough money to buy a car.
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I think quite honestly sad. If we start to hide and monitor bank accounts so the money part, you lose all confidence and sincerity in the pair. At least I see it that way.
Are you a salary man?
OscarAlacant: As I say in the post, and to hide the accounts, although there is not a common event.
jurejure: Yeah, right.
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I did not cost me nothing to work hard without seeing my money whims ...
I already got me to control myself well, but not sustain another control "completely my money for my u_u
What would I do without my whims?
Anyway, if I get to the final account to buy a car with the money saved (no need for me to divert monies accounts xD) I will stay calmer: 3
When the woman and her husband work, what happens? Or it is not very common for women to work?
Here in Mexico, there are cases in which the lord of the house gives you all the money and the lady just as she manages, but our society is still quite macho and in many cases is the man who gives the Mrs "expense" for home purchases and payments.
Otherwise, 1000 or 2000 yen, is not something muuuuy pressed for a day?
It is an obligation which is the deposit to the account of her? or is an unwritten social convention?
There are men "emancipated" to break with this?
Man, it seems to me almost a lack of confidence, no? I do not know if it is typical for something but did .. The husband would spend it all?
If the woman deceived him with the second false account "that kind of marriage is that?
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It is the first time I write and just wanted to let you know you have another follower of your blog from Mexico.
Almost since it opened and I think I read the magnificent way in which your life stories.
Thanks for your readers to offer us a vision of what is Japan.
Lack of confidence I have read around, well, this is indeed a marriage in Japanese society (not all, but in general) an "agreement" where the interests of various kinds eventually imposed within a society of a slave mentality caduca macho. Again, unfortunately, in general.
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Palcraft: The opposite is not true. I've never heard of a Japanese family that women and men do not work.
Edmundo: Well, that depends on the house, but surely will be women.
Edmundo: It's just little, but if your food and fads are not going smoothly.
It is not an obligation, it is a habit. The family may want to break with this of course, in my case, for example, we have 3 accounts, one of Ayumi, a mine and a community we joined every month money.
Quicoto: Of course it is better to manage the money. Many Japanese if they were would leave the pocket full of glasses, etc. to continuously pachinko.
Hello Alain ..
I think this is the first time I write and read your blog for some time, I think more than a year ago when he was collecting material relating to my thesis and "fell" by chance in this corner and I was hooked. Since then I read it all.
With regard to the issue raised. I find it incredible miss my friends who are married say they ration the money that the salary and if the lady is working, because they are accounted for separately and ready. If that situation were to happen here in my country (that give the entire salary to the lady) and friends would come to know the target of many jokes and was heavy seek to "subject."
EMO, I think it is an aspect of social behavior of the Japanese family, the woman takes care of the house and kids and manages the money when thorough accountant. The theme is outdated and perhaps for many families is better this way. What if I ask is when the husband wants to be a luxury What it says to the lady? IE: "I love this team wants mnusical I have always dreamed of having, I have the money?" Eñl agrees to give us money?
Alain greetings and not pairs that I find quite entrete writing your blog.
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In parts of Africa do not give microloans to men because they spend on drinking and prostitutes, while in other countries of South America are not given to women because so wasted. It is cultural.
Maybe if they left the money to men in Japan will spend much, unlike if you leave it to a Spanish, who managed properly (more or less), still seems healthier and in Spain, that decide on the two charges, this being the norm.
Another Japanese horrible conduct for the list.
Hello:
I, too, is the first time I write here but I long ago that the blog.
What accounts that husbands are paid by women and they are the ones who manage all the money ... I do not sound anything weird. In fact, in my region, or at least in the area where I live is the norm. I live in a village in the north of Extremadura, and has always been the case here. The women manage the money and pays them a husband to leave if they want to drink. At least the elderly, but I know that marriages between young happens.
Perhaps Japan and Spain are not that far.
While women bear a separate account with its dinerillo, the husband also know when to make the income statement and reflected the interest that makes the money from his wife, that signal will be high if you have saved a lot or is low, assuming that there poco.Lo say there is tb. income each year, Alain huh? How much you have left, if so, to pay or return? Simple curiosidad.Gracias. A kiss.
Go! So what happens in shin-chan is normal, no? that stuff ^ ^
Well, I think that if both are in agreement to do so, I see very well.
Does the inverse model in Japan?, Ie husband and wife who works from home to work and who manages the money. A salary-woman perhaps?
It is evil system of macho men who fuck themselves silly at the most, while fuck believe the woman locked up in house.
A bit of "normality" and transparency in the home is never wrong. I could never live like that and get my partner and me.
Decide all clear that ... the cost of agreement is often a source of discussion. I know a couple is separated because he is not free to squander their money as you want, read "What if I want to buy a boat," She will not let me. " The downside is that in this particular case, I imagine he ruined it again sooner or later, because they are not rich.
I do not seem so strange, there is no end to take you from having to make a payment. But usually in Spain any member of the couple is to keep a check of the accounts and are usually women. So if the man does not have to pay but if a limit is reached an agreement which can spend each week and this has its own trajeta credit. But usually the accounts of the house continues women.
In my parents' house, which he worked alone, the money has always given my mother. My father entered party account (payroll) and a part brought about (with not too much I do not think) that went on for a bit (such as a tip) and the rest my mother down to the bank.
In my father I've ever seen to keep house, my mother invested, moving the money, got, got as needed.
Account Access lso two, but my father was rarely rarely use it.
I think that if it is women who are at home, she is responsible for organizing the accounts, without so much secrecy as there is true, but ... it is logical, right?
Hopefully I do not tubiese to work, and could live alone with my husband's salary. SIGNED NOW! I bow to the working life .. I have a family and devote myself to it! By choice! obligation is to work with: (.
So in my house with the money and run both wonder and consult to spend. Recently my father bought a thing without asking veneer and my mother got angry because they do not understand how to spend the money from the couple deciding one.
Frankly, I feel horrible not having sufficient maturity for both administered.
I see myself well if it were not for my girlfriend does not even half a month and do not live with what she does not manage money without spending the truth that I am well aware capricious everything I like what I see
If it is strange ... if I and my companion tenermos separate accounts and each has access to the other ... but we never use the
Curious "custom" saúdo one
Most likely to be women carouse with the money diverted jejeje, in the end, go wrong ehhh
We will have to send the clear accounts of Four.
As I see there are variety of opniones about it rarisimo and others is normal. As always just a different habit and always think that their habits are the best.
Miryam: Here the statement of income you make the same company.
I see the truth as well, I'm an industrial city of Mexico (Mexicali) and is full of Japanese and other foreign companies, and the truth is that gefes of the Company (Japan) have a reputation for being very vevedores jaja, maybe ams is wise to have women fully in charge of the money>. <
Because what the husband does not pay to see it strange. At least before, and my parents are doing. The salary of the two (2 workers) is a common expenses and my mother is the one that gave my father a week (paid weekly) for the cafe and gastillos, 2 have access to the card, but is based in the hope that goal will not be hand without mutual consent. And so is control over the expenditure and is known as Home Economics. Even with my partner I do not see it strange.
And say what the accounts are hidden cases ..
Hey, keep your blog started when we decided to go to japan travel to race, and believe me, we've been quite useful! thank you very much for this wonderful blog!
Although say that this is a Japanese tradition, in some houses andalucia, specifically in the mine is very normal that my parents pay their monthly salary into a common, but actually my mother is carrying the accounts of the house, she manages the portfolio, it takes money, and she spends a day paguilla my father to have something in the wallet, in fact, with that paguilla, save for my father birthday gift from my mother is my father ... it does not touch it, not because it prohibited even less! simply because it was so long that my mother knows better manage the accounts of the house.
Elsewhere Spanish tapas when you go with your wife man makes money from his portfolio, andalucia many cases (like my parents) that my mother passed the money under the table and my father pay, but the money it takes my mother), seems a curious tradition!.
(although my mother not to divert money that is hidden .. sure!)
Interestingly, the article is really excellent, always surprised me learn a lot by reading blogs, one never stops learning about the customs of Japan, congratulations and do not fall for your efforts!